A couple weeks ago, Open the Dialogue featured a guest post written by Susan Getgood, a leader in social media marketing. Today, we’re pleased to feature an open dialogue with Susan to discuss more about social media, Susan’s experience in the industry, and her advice to those just joining public relations. Susan is the founder of GetGood Strategic Marketing, advising organizations on integrated social media outreach and internet marketing strategies. She also leads corporate workshops on social media and blogger relations. She is a frequent speaker at social media and public relations conferences around the country, including New Comm Forum, BlogHer ‘09 and Mom 2.0 Summit. Her blog, Marketing Roadmaps, is an analysis of current trends, best practices and campaign mishaps. You can also follow her on Twitter at @sgetgood. - AB
DM: One question I’ve heard often is, “How does this social media ‘stuff’ (blogs, Twitter, Facebook) affect my ROI?” How do you convince, or better yet explain, why social media is important for a business?
Susan Getgood: The blogger is your customer. Why wouldn’t you want to engage with your customer in meaningful ways? Now, your client will nod yes, but the words No or Not Now may emerge. What do you do?
• Monitor for mentions of the company or even better, competitors. Lots of activity shows that the customers are in the space.
• If the competitor is getting good coverage, offer ideas on how your client can insert and displace.
• If the client is getting slammed, preferably unjustly, and there’s something you can do in social media to improve the situation, offer the idea.
• Suggest a pilot project. Ask for a little of the budget from somewhere else, whether it be advertising, direct or even the PR budget. Make sure you build a solid outcome oriented measure – a customer behavior – into the pilot so the client can see the results. No one ever went into business to raise awareness. If you can show that social media impacts PURCHASE, you’ll get to do the next project.
The social media space is very overwhelming – even for someone who has grown up on the Internet. For a client, what advice do you have for how they should get started if they’re not sure if they should join Twitter or Facebook, start a blog, start a blogger campaign (among many options)?
You start where your customers are. If you don’t know, ask them. Next, you think about how you can tell meaningful stories. Generally, for a first phase, unless the client has a compelling issue or story that can feed the blog and pull the audience in, I recommend blogger outreach over starting a blog. Get to know your customers using social media, and find out if there’s an unmet need that you could satisfy with a community site or a blog. Then, when you build it, they will come. If you jump in a create the 10th site about something, without doing the research and getting involved in the community, don’t be surprised if your stadium is pretty empty.
On your blog, Marketing Roadmaps, you have analyzed countless PR campaigns and advised on the good and the bad. What have been one or two blogger relations campaigns that really stand out to you as the best, and why?
The outreach APCO Worldwide did for the launch of Greenstone Media a couple years ago still stands out for me because they did such a brilliant job of connecting their offer – to participate in a conference call with Gloria Steinem – with the interests of the small number of women bloggers they reached out to.
I very much like your recent campaign for 1-800-Flowers. I think big events get all the “press” but it’s small gestures that sustain relationships. I also like any project that puts the focus back on the customer, for example, by featuring them on your site as you did in this campaign. I think I was one of the first to use this approach, when I interviewed mom bloggers about photography for the launch of HP’s photo books in Fall 2007, and I love to see it used by others.
You have been involved in social media marketing since the early ‘90s. How did you get started?
When I saw the very first version of Mozilla (the 1st web browser) in 1994, I realized that it was going to change how we marketed to our customers. At that moment, I made the decision to focus my career – to the extent that I could — on using the Internet to reach customers, specifically exploring how the new tools let us engage with our customers to meet their needs.
When social media began to take off in 2004 and 2005, I saw it as the fulfillment of the promise of customer engagement. The channel now went both ways. It wasn’t just companies pushing down content on websites, with limited engagement in forums, by email and from the few tech savvy customers, fan (or non-fan) websites. Social media offers far simpler ways for customers to push up. Push back. From their own spaces. Even if they aren’t geeks.
If we choose, it lets us practice true customer centric marketing. I choose.
As a woman in business and in social media, what tips do you have for other women in an otherwise heavily-male influenced industry?
Social media is certainly male dominated, and PR, while female dominant, is still male dominated. So what’s an enterprising woman to do? Make connections. Network.
Make sure among all your networks, one is woman dominant. It makes a difference. I’m as competitive as the next person, and think I’ve done, and do, fairly well, in a male dominated world and industry. But I truly appreciate the woman’s networks I belong to, the women who have become my network, and don’t think I would be as strong without them.
Graduation day is right around the corner for many public relations students. What is one lesson or piece of advice about public relations that Professor Getgood would like to impart?
Wear sunscreen?
Seriously, I think the future of public relations lies in integrating what have traditionally been view as marketing communications skills. It’s not just about reaching out to mainstream media using those rules of engagement I mentioned at the outset. You have to understand your role in a broader context in order to be successful.
If you take the inside (versus agency) path, be willing to take slightly non-traditional, at least in the PR sense, jobs in order to get exposure to the business, the real business of your company. It will serve you well in understanding how to really engage with the customer.
Talk to customers. Whenever you can. Even if they aren’t yours. It’s worth its weight in gold to have a glimpse at what motivates, interests, impassions people. PR people just aren’t used to talking to the customer. Get over, get used to it, do it.
What three blogs do you recommend to someone just getting started in social media?
Other than mine, Marketing Roadmaps, you mean?
Four PR Blogs I love:
Communications Overtones
PR Squared
It’s Not A Lecture
The Bad Pitch Blog
But do yourself a favor, and don’t just read professional and PR blogs. Find some blogs that interest you personally. About your hobbies, or parenting, or travel or whatever. If you just do the business stuff, you may never really understand why people get so engaged in social media. It’s all about meeting people like you, all over the world. People you would never meet if it weren’t for social networking. They may just become some of your best friends.
That alone is worth the price of admission.